Stitched Demon Whispering Ice Ascendant Build Guide (PoE Harvest 3.11)

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Guide Format

This build guide is split over multiple pages, both to prevent it from getting too long, as well as to help you better find the information you are looking for. In addition to the current page, which presents general information about the build and also contains a Leveling and FAQ section, we have the following pages:

Introduction

With the changes to the passive tree and Cyclone Cyclone in 3.7, The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice builds received a serious boost in power level and clearspeed. Boasting a unique method of scaling and excellent defensive capabilities, the Mask of the Stitched Demon Mask of the Stitched Demon variant has performed admirably in all levels of content. Additionally, Glorious Vanity Glorious Vanity brings a new, powerful keystone to the table for this build in Corrupted Soul, granting 20% of maximum life as extra maximum Energy Shield, while ignoring the drawback. This provides a large boost to life regeneration thanks to Mask of the Stitched Demon Mask of the Stitched Demon, bringing life based The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice builds up to compete with CI and low life variants in terms of survivability. With high damage, great survivability, and a fun playstyle, the Stitched Demon Icestorm Scion is a great choice for anybody looking to play a non-traditional cold caster build.

Build Summary

This build makes use a few powerful, build-defining uniques in Mask of the Stitched Demon Mask of the Stitched Demon, The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice, and Cyclopean Coil Cyclopean Coil, with the rest of its gear offering nearly endless scaling via the unique, intelligence-scaling offenses and defenses of the build. It is capable of reaching 8000+ life, with 7000 being easily accessible even on a budget, and utilizes a variety of sources of life recovery to maintain 1000+ life regenerated per second, before factoring in life on hit or leech. It is great at facetanking guardians and other difficult content, all while spinning up to several million DPS.

Pros

+ Extremely durable (7000+ life, 1000+ regeneration per second, access to other great recovery and mitigation sources)
+ Cyclone Cyclone means you do not have to slow down to deal damage, alleviating the fact that Icestorm deals its damage over a duration
+ Nearly screen-wide AoE, thanks to Spell Cascade Support Spell Cascade Support
+ Reasonably budget-friendly, with room for near endless growth on gear

Cons

- Not the fastest clearing build, thanks to the reduced movement speed from Cyclone Cyclone, and the difficulty of accessing extreme move speed that other Cyclone Cyclone builds can
- Due to the mechanics of Icestorm, single target damage needs to be built up over a few seconds, starting at only a few hundred thousand (though able to ramp up to millions)
- Can cause performance issues

Playstyle and Core Mechanics

What exactly does Icestorm even do?

Icestorm is a unique skill granted by the The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice staff. Put simply, it is a cold version of Firestorm Firestorm. This is, however, only part of the story. It deals 1-3 cold damage per 10 intelligence, hits every 0.1 seconds, has a base duration of 1.5 seconds, and gains an additional 0.15 seconds of base duration per 100 intelligence. This means that at 1500 intelligence, easily achievable on entry level gear, Icestorm deals 150-450 base damage and has a base duration of 3.75 seconds. Comparing this to Firestorm Firestorm‘s base of 200-300 and base duration of 2 seconds, it is clear why Icestorm is capable of scaling much higher. The high base cast time of 0.75 seconds can by bypassed using Cast while Channelling Support Cast while Channelling Support, bringing it down to 0.34 seconds, while not locking you in place thanks to Cyclone Cyclone.

Playstyle

Thanks to Cyclone Cyclone becoming a channelling skill, the playstyle of The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice builds has moved from a stationary, slow, and often clunky one to a quick, mobile build. Spell Cascade Support Spell Cascade Support allows you to quickly paint the world in ice, without actually increasing the area of effect of the skill, something that actually decreases its damage. Overall, it plays like a hybrid of a damage over time spellcaster and a traditional Cyclone Cyclone build, rushing through packs and then leaving them to die to the rain of ice. It is also capable of activating Vaal Righteous Fire Vaal Righteous Fire for a massive boost in DPS, and will restore the sacrificed life quickly.

Defensively, the build supports itself with Mask of the Stitched Demon Mask of the Stitched Demon‘s huge regeneration boost, along with a large life pool and your choice of guard skills. It is also capable of getting life gained on hit via a ring, which is very powerful on a skill that hits as often as Icestorm does, and life leech, which is always a nice benefit. Thanks to chilling enemies, it also has much more time to breathe between hits than other, comparable builds.

Passive Skill Tree

Recommended Level 90 Skill Tree

For more information, be sure to check out the Passive Skill Tree page.

Gems

We go over all of the gem links this build uses in the end-game on our Gem Link page.

Ascendancy, Bandits, and Pantheon

Our Ascendancy, Bandit, and Pantheon Power page has all the details on the choices made for this build.

Gear Summary

For an in depth look at the recommended gear, check out The gear page, but we have some basic outlines here.

Item Slot Item Name
Head Mask of the Stitched Demon Mask of the Stitched Demon
Amulet Rare Shaper Lapis Amulet Lapis Amulet or Astramentis Astramentis
Chest Rare Body Armour
Gloves Rare Gloves
Boots Rare Boots
Belt Cyclopean Coil Cyclopean Coil
Rings Rare Rings
Weapon The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice

Levelling

As a reminder, we have several guides to help you level up a character.

Thanks to the level requirement of The Whispering Ice The Whispering Ice, it is easy to equip it, alongside an Astramentis Astramentis at fairly low levels. It is recommended that you buy and socket the staff before leveling, and simply use the endgame skill gem setup from when you can first equip it, and play the build from level 33 to endgame. Before then, your preference between Frostbolt Frostbolt, Freezing Pulse Freezing Pulse, or other preferred leveling spell is perfectly acceptable to use. Prior to the Eternal Labyrinth allows you to separate the Scion and Templar starting points, simply path up to the Witch and Templar area through the Shaper node by Scion.

FAQ

What map mods do you need to avoid?

Thanks to Scion – Elementalist, you only need to avoid no regen maps, as nothing else presents a problem to this build.

Why not go crit?

While crit is an appealing option, stat stacking builds are typically stretched on the tree in such a way that it is hard to actually pick up enough critical chance to make it worthwhile, and Elemental Overload offers enough damage that you do not need to play a dedicated crit setup to deal more than enough damage for all content.

What anointments should this build use?

Heart of Ice, Tranquility, or any +30 intelligence anointment make for strong options.

Changelog
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    Updated tree for 3.10.

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    Updated the skill tree for the 3.8 changes

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    Build added.

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    I followed this guide pretty closely, I have 1090 intelligence and spent like 3 ex on gear and I am barely going enough damage to clear tier 3 maps? Why is my damage so low? I have all the required items, and very good rares in the non defined spot including +% int on the body armor. I’m using hatred + herald of ice with enlighten supports, i have all the unique jewels plus like 5 jewels with +5-7% hp and 20+int. I also only have 4500hp? What’s going on? Can you post a proof video or something that this build works and isn’t just theory crafted POB

  2. Lydia

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    Sadscion, I can definitely help you out, but I’d need to see your gear and passive trees. Can you link the profile of your character? That would help me to figure out what’s wrong on your build. :)

    Here’s a quick clip of a phoenix kill from a while back The map had extra boss damage, so I was playing a bit more cautious than normal, and not running concentrated effect.

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    Greetings. I wanted to say that this is by far one of the most fun builds I have played. Extremely durable, I don’t have a habit of using flasks so I often die in situations where flask usage could have saved me… But that is no problem for this build, since flask are not mandatory at all. Clearing t11 atm because I don’t have higher tiers but I doubt there would be any problems on t15-16. I made some changes, like using two staves, one for clear and one for single target. Also a different gem setup (mainly life leech) since I feel that the regen alone is not enough to sustain the life pool. As well as using hatred+hoi+hoa. Since I do a lot of fire dmg I thought hoa would be a good choice. The damage is probably on the lower side compared to what the original intends but I am satisfied with it. I was wondering if I could post my PoB and ask for tips on how to improve my build further.

  4. Lydia

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    Absolutely, I’d love to help out! If you’re missing life leech, a really good upgrade is to get cold damage leeched as life on your amulet, though obviously that can be pretty expensive, especially early in the league.

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    Some things that I did differently: Using Kaom’s Heart for more life and the %fire damage. The %fire damage works well for me because I am using avatar of fire+cold to fire support gem, getting that extra fire damage because it converts cold to fire twice. Also a thing to know is that I am in Standard, so upgrade potential is definitely there.

    This is my current level 90 character imported into PoB: https://pastebin.com/CWFsSqE5

    Any tips will be appreciated.

    Edited by NioxiS on September 11th, 2019

  6. Lydia

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    The first spot I’d look to improve your setup is the amulet. 1% damage per 15 intelligence is a really big damage improvement. You can get that and some other good mods for 1-3 exalts on standard. (They’re way cheaper for good rolls on league, in my experience, unfortunately) A 15% Cyclopean Coil is a nice upgrade, or one with a good corruption. Getting curse on hit warlord’s mark, or life gained on hit with spells on a ring is probably your best bet to drop the life leech support, which would let you sub in a damage support instead.

    Since you’re using Avatar of Fire, I’d probably pick up the Snowforged cluster, since it’s 3 nodes for 76% increased damage. I’d probably swap the brute force solution in the life regen scion section, and the fertile mind up by avatar of fire, replacing them with either rare jewels or emperor’s jewels. A watcher’s eye with added cold damage would also be a bit of a damage increase over most of your jewels.

    Overall, your setup seems pretty reasonable. If you’re looking to purely increase your damage, you could probably drop a lot of your trailing life nodes, and replace them with a bit more damage, or pick up the jewel socket by the shadow section of the tree. Swapping the life leech support to a damage support will be the biggest difference, so that would be my first goal for improving the build. Getting a 1% damage per 15 int amulet would be my second goal, then probably look for marginal improvements, like upgrading movement speed on your boots, or balancing all your resists for wise oak. You can also swap out avatar of fire and cold to fire for a legacy pyre, since you’re on standard. They’re surprisingly cheap, and would let you use atziri’s promise, which is a good option for both damage and leech.

    Hope some of that was helpful :)

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    Ok so I found amu and it boosted dmg pretty nicely. I will look at the tree and see if I can do something with those points where you mentioned you would remove fertile mind/brute force solution. Picked up the Snowforged cluster as well. Thanks for the tips, I will continue to improve and if I have any more questions I’ll post here again :D

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    I’m curious, new player and going to use your build :). Why use hypothermia support and elemental focus support? Doesn’t focus take away chill from Icestorm and hypothermia works better when they are chilled? Just confused looking for clarification on that, and wondering if swapping out elemental focus with Bonechill support would be good? Thanks for the guide can’t wait to try it

  9. Lydia

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    While elemental focus gets rid of the ability for the skill’s hits to chill, the chilled ground from Icestorm will still chill. It’s a bit of a weird interaction, but it does work. Bonechill is actually something I looked into, but you can’t really scale the chill up enough to make it worth it on this build, so it stays on Cold DoT builds for the most part.

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    Ok thank you very much for the reply, wasn’t sure if it would be better or not I just had a 20/20 Bonechill and thought you would know best :) great guide it was all helpful and seems like a lot of fun

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    Ok thank you very much for the reply, wasn’t sure if it would be better or not I just had a 20/20 Bonechill and thought you would know best :) great guide it was all helpful and seems like a lot of fun

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    Edited by Magnox666 on October 6th, 2019

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    On 11/08/2019 at 11:04 PM, Lydia said

    Sadscion, I can definitely help you out, but I’d need to see your gear and passive trees. Can you link the profile of your character? That would help me to figure out what’s wrong on your build. :)

    Here’s a quick clip of a phoenix kill from a while back The map had extra boss damage, so I was playing a bit more cautious than normal, and not running concentrated effect.

    Can you help me ? I have been struggling with this build principaly in the glorious vanity part. can you get me a pob version of you build at least here those jewels are socketed?

    thanks i realy apreciate those builds with icestorm and channeling casts

  14. Lydia

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    Magnox666, Path of Building does not have the timeless jewels incorporated at all. The best you can do is add it as a jewel with the relevant stats, in this case “Gain 20% of Maximum Life as Extra Maximum Energy Shield.” If you are following the passive tree I have in the guide, I recommend you put it in the jewel socket behind the elemental damage nodes, in the top left of the tree, and take the node that was formerly Avatar of Fire. This positioning also lets you pick up some good nodes from Agility and Might without having to take any additional pathing nodes.

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    What the idea behind taking the Avatar of Fire Node? Seems like you lose 50% of your DPS by taking it unless you run the Cold to fire support gem as well?

    Edit:
    Nevermind the Skill node changes when you put the Doryani timeless jewel into the socket nearby

    Edited by Anorak on January 17th, 2020

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    Any thoughts on using The Stampede boots to address move speed with Cyclone? (Plus being able to anoint them)

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