Unkillable Necro - Detonate Dead Necromancer Passive Skill Tree & Gem Links

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Passive Skill Tree

You can find an optimized Path of Building here. Every build I release will use the community fork of Path of Building, which is maintained and updated in a much more regular fashion than the original one. You can find PoB’s Fork, by LocalIdentity, here.

If you are not comfortable with Path of Building, we also have a PoePlanner for you. Do note that PoE Planner does not support Cluster Jewels and some specific unique jewels and it is highly recommended you install Path of Building to follow builds most optimally.

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Progression Advice

Since this build works as soon as you swap to it after the storyline, you’ll be completely fine regardless but I’ll leave you with this Path of Building to give you an idea as to what I would suggest your tree looks like at the beginning of maps.

If you’re not comfortable with Path of Building, here’s a PoePlanner to give you an idea of how your tree should look like whenever you’re at about that level.

Gem Links

Detonate Dead Detonate Dead – Main Link (6-Link)

A Vaal Detonate Dead is more important than a corrupted level 21 regular version. Detonate Dead is insane on bosses or hard single target. Do note that the build was not played with Awakened Versions of these gems but I mention them just for those people who do want to use them in Trade Leagues. They are not required whatsoever

  1. Vaal Detonate Dead Vaal Detonate Dead
  2. Awakened Unleash Support Awakened Unleash Support
  3. Awakened Elemental Focus Support Awakened Elemental Focus Support
  4. Awakened Spell Cascade Support Awakened Spell Cascade Support
  5. Awakened Fire Penetration Support Awakened Fire Penetration Support
  6. Energy Leech Support Energy Leech Support or Inspiration Support Inspiration Support (Preference, one is safer, the other is more consistent DPS)

Spawning Corpses with Desecrate Desecrate

Since you want to Detonate Corpses, you’re going to need to spawn them in the first place. This is where Desecrate comes in. As mentioned before, the gem will spawn your Spectres regularly which increases the monster life of monsters you’re detonating. It’s linked to Arcane Surge to guarantee the buff’s uptime and Spell Cascade to create more corpses.

  1. Desecrate Desecrate
  2. Spell Cascade Support Spell Cascade Support
  3. Arcane Surge Support Arcane Surge Support (Level 7 when Desecrate is level 20)

Movement & Utility

You’re linking both Enduring Cry and Flame Dash to Second Wind. Since this is a potential free socket, you’re socketing your Raise Spectre Raise Spectre gem here as well. Sadly, you don’t have any sockets to give it supports, so you might have to re-summon them regularly, but as long as you don’t leave the zone they died in, recuperating them is easy enough. The Spectres you want to summon are one Stoneskin Flayer & one Lithomancer from Primeval Ruins (Delve), just because they have the most Life possible right now. Grab one of each if you can as from what I tested having two of the same Spectres doesn’t raise the odds of it being created. Therefore, having the 2 highest health Spectres is important as then it adds two in the pool.

  1. Enduring Cry Enduring Cry
  2. Second Wind Support Second Wind Support
  3. Flame Dash Flame Dash
  4. Raise Spectre Raise Spectre

You might consider dropping the Second Wind Support Second Wind Support to add an Elemental Army Support Elemental Army Support, but judging from Path of Building’s numbers on these spectres, I honestly don’t think they can ever die. If you really want to avoid your minions dying, then you can make the swap; it is definitely personal preference!

Herald & Cast when Damage Taken

As your sole mana reserving buff you’re running Herald of Ash Herald of Ash. While that has no links, you’re using this space to 3-Link a high level Cast when Damage Taken Support Cast when Damage Taken Support. Steelskin and Tempest Shield offer some extra defenses when we just took a scary hit.

  1. Herald of Ash Herald of Ash
  2. Cast when Damage Taken Support Cast when Damage Taken Support (20)
  3. Steelskin Steelskin
  4. Tempest Shield Tempest Shield

Trigger Wand Setup

As you want to get all of these buffs automatically cast, you need to socket them in your Trigger Wand. These effectively add a ton of Damage through lowering resistances and exposing enemies to Fire Damage while granting you Bone Offering, the cornerstone of your build.

  1. Bone Offering Bone Offering
  2. Flammability Flammability
  3. Wave of Conviction Wave of Conviction

Fortify & Combustion

Through casting General’s Cry, you’re making the summoned minions attack enemies with Vigilant Strike. This grants you fortify through The Vigil The Vigil jewel. As long as you cast this once every 30 seconds, you will have permanent Fortify!

  1. Vigilant Strike Vigilant Strike
  2. General's Cry Support General's Cry Support

Wherever you decided to socket this, you can also socket your Armageddon Brand Armageddon Brand which helps you proc Elemental Overload as well as applies Combustion which reduced the enemies Fire Resistance by a significant chunk. Make sure to throw these down when fighting bosses.

  1. Armageddon Brand Armageddon Brand
  2. Combustion Support Combustion Support

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Changelog

  • Build updated for Ritual 3.13.

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    So you say not to use wand but a sceptre, then you link a wand with Trigger a Socketed Spell when you use a Skill, and on the Gem Link page at 2.5 we have Trigger Wand Setup. So wich is it wand or sceptre? I am confused.

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    On 09/12/2020 at 8:59 PM, sfantulst said

    So you say not to use wand but a sceptre, then you link a wand with Trigger a Socketed Spell when you use a Skill, and on the Gem Link page at 2.5 we have Trigger Wand Setup. So wich is it wand or sceptre? I am confused.

    It’s A Sceptre, my bad. I’ll push an update.

    EDIT: Pushed an update!

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    Thank you. It’s the most awesomest :) build I have ever seen. Just 1 more dilemma … I see that in the passive skill tree you go for some +minion damage. Why is that?

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    On 10/12/2020 at 6:01 PM, sfantulst said

    Thank you. It’s the most awesomest :) build I have ever seen. Just 1 more dilemma … I see that in the passive skill tree you go for some +minion damage. Why is that?

    Since Detonate Dead is hard to scale, and the Spritual Aid notable makes minion damage work on you, it’s a fairly efficient Damage pathing

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    The link to paaks twitch is wrong, must be Paak_HC instead of PaakHC.

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    On 15/12/2020 at 10:44 AM, iberion_ said

    The link to paaks twitch is wrong, must be Paak_HC instead of PaakHC.

    Pushing an update here!

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    Ok 2 more questions
    1. In the helmet I see 2 res sockets and 2 blue ones. I guessing I should put in armageddon and combustion on the blue ones and generals cry on the red but what of the second red because I don’t span those mirror images when I use generals cry? So no fortify for me:)
    2. You say to use Val Detonate Dead but I don’t understand how to use it against bosses without spawns because there are no souls to recharge it. I mean it is difficult when killing mobs because i have to w8 for it to recharge but at bosses…

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    On 20/12/2020 at 9:42 PM, sfantulst said

    Ok 2 more questions
    1. In the helmet I see 2 res sockets and 2 blue ones. I guessing I should put in armageddon and combustion on the blue ones and generals cry on the red but what of the second red because I don’t span those mirror images when I use generals cry? So no fortify for me:)
    2. You say to use Val Detonate Dead but I don’t understand how to use it against bosses without spawns because there are no souls to recharge it. I mean it is difficult when killing mobs because i have to w8 for it to recharge but at bosses…

    1. What do you mean “I see 2 red and 2 blue sockets”? You can change sockets on your helmet?

    2. Vaal DD should be charged at the end of a map to kill the boss?

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    1. I know I can. Sorry if I wasn’t specific enough. I mean what to socket in the 4th socket in the helm in order for the vigil to work. I socketed armageddon, combustion and generals cry on it and my mirror images don’t spawn so no fortify :(
    2. Forget I sad anything about val DD. I’m an Idiot. Just realized that i can use DD normal spell if I have vaal DD gem.:)

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    On 21/12/2020 at 1:22 PM, sfantulst said

    1. I know I can. Sorry if I wasn’t specific enough. I mean what to socket in the 4th socket in the helm in order for the vigil to work. I socketed armageddon, combustion and generals cry on it and my mirror images don’t spawn so no fortify :(
    2. Forget I sad anything about val DD. I’m an Idiot. Just realized that i can use DD normal spell if I have vaal DD gem.:)

    1. you mean vigilant strike?

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    Hey, thanks for the guide im having a lot of fun. It can’t one shot bosses like g.slam champ but the map clearing is godly. Anyways, I have a couple of questions :).

    1. How do you go about using vaal dd? What im doing when i use it on a boss is i desecrate, use the vaal, then spam desecrate to keep the explosions going. I think I read on the gem that it stops after 22 corpse explosions and I’m not sure how many corpses I spawn with desecrate/spell cascade but that’s how im going about it. Is this what you do usually?

    2. How do you feel about bitterbind point for in slot shield? First time seeing this shield and figured I’d use it but not sure if it outweighs the option to have t1 spell block on a rare. I’m playing hc so my natural tendency is to lean towards the defensive option but I would like to kill bosses faster so that’s why im thinking this instead.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Yea got it. It was confusing because id you don’t have vigilant strike connected to generals cry then the generals cry doesn’t summon minions. Again thanks for the build.

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    I have been having a lot of fun with this build during Flashback, so thanks for this. Couple questions though.

    In the Gear TL;DR you mention getting resists on all of the rare gear due to using so many uniques in the build. Other than the jewel I did not see any recommended uniques. Any additional info on what you meant?

    In the cluster jewel section you mention “…the Sadist notable is insane for this build. You’re shocking, igniting and chilling all the time…” What in the build is causing us to consistently shock, ignite and chill? WIth Elemental Focus DD will not ignite, correct?

    Thanks.

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    On 22/12/2020 at 2:44 PM, Dirtt said

    I have been having a lot of fun with this build during Flashback, so thanks for this. Couple questions though.

    In the Gear TL;DR you mention getting resists on all of the rare gear due to using so many uniques in the build. Other than the jewel I did not see any recommended uniques. Any additional info on what you meant?

    In the cluster jewel section you mention “…the Sadist notable is insane for this build. You’re shocking, igniting and chilling all the time…” What in the build is causing us to consistently shock, ignite and chill? WIth Elemental Focus DD will not ignite, correct?

    Thanks.

    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

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    On 21/12/2020 at 11:29 PM, dabeezneez said

    Hey, thanks for the guide im having a lot of fun. It can’t one shot bosses like g.slam champ but the map clearing is godly. Anyways, I have a couple of questions :).

    1. How do you go about using vaal dd? What im doing when i use it on a boss is i desecrate, use the vaal, then spam desecrate to keep the explosions going. I think I read on the gem that it stops after 22 corpse explosions and I’m not sure how many corpses I spawn with desecrate/spell cascade but that’s how im going about it. Is this what you do usually?

    2. How do you feel about bitterbind point for in slot shield? First time seeing this shield and figured I’d use it but not sure if it outweighs the option to have t1 spell block on a rare. I’m playing hc so my natural tendency is to lean towards the defensive option but I would like to kill bosses faster so that’s why im thinking this instead.

    Thanks in advance!

    1. Vaal DD is used whenever you feel like you need to. I’m not quite sure actually on the Desecrate spam. I thought Desecrate -> DD was the move but I never knew about what you mentioned so it might actually be better.

    2. The Spectre Life looks insane, but I agree .. Spell Block / Life / .. is just too vital to give up. I wouldn’t do it as damage is already nuts.

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    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

    I didn’t see any mention of Skitterbots in the gem section, and actually it says “As your sole mana reserving buff you’re running Herald of Ash Herald of Ash. “ in the gem section. Can you clear that up? Also, how would the additional reserved mana affect the effectiveness of MoM? Is there a rule of thumb as to how much unreserved mana you should have based on current health pool?

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    On 22/12/2020 at 3:33 PM, Dirtt said

    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

    I didn’t see any mention of Skitterbots in the gem section, and actually it says “As your sole mana reserving buff you’re running Herald of Ash Herald of Ash. “ in the gem section. Can you clear that up? Also, how would the additional reserved mana affect the effectiveness of MoM? Is there a rule of thumb as to how much unreserved mana you should have based on current health pool?

    Sorry, I was confusing this with another build, It’s not because of Skitter but because of Corpse Pact, a part of Necromancer’s Ascendancy which Shocks and Chill enemies around your Desecrate Corpses.

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    Thanks as always for the guides, I use them as inspiration often as you all have one of the best PoE websites!

    Saw where you mentioned you always try to stick to a leveling path (through acts) that mimics the end-game build as much as possible but couldn’t find a fit — and just wanted to say Cremation plays nearly identical and is an amazing leveling skill along with Arma brand @ 28.

    And to stay on theme and not have to repsec any points at all I go like this:

    Purifying Flame + Holy Flame Totem 1/4 Wave of Conviction 16
    Desecrate + Cremation / Armageddon Brand @ 28

    Arma brand is great for zoom-zoom and cremation packs a huge punch for bosses/rares, and once you get decent cast speed/2nd lab, even des+crema feels good as you can set it and forget it.

    Cheers again and happy holidays!

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    On 25/12/2020 at 4:51 AM, korn0413 said

    Thanks as always for the guides, I use them as inspiration often as you all have one of the best PoE websites!

    Saw where you mentioned you always try to stick to a leveling path (through acts) that mimics the end-game build as much as possible but couldn’t find a fit — and just wanted to say Cremation plays nearly identical and is an amazing leveling skill along with Arma brand @ 28.

    And to stay on theme and not have to repsec any points at all I go like this:

    Purifying Flame + Holy Flame Totem 1/4
    Wave of Conviction 16
    Desecrate + Cremation / Armageddon Brand @ 28

    Arma brand is great for zoom-zoom and cremation packs a huge punch for bosses/rares, and once you get decent cast speed/2nd lab, even des+crema feels good as you can set it and forget it.

    Cheers again and happy holidays!


    Yeah, that might be a good idea. Arma + Cremation is really solid! Isn’t Holy Flame Totem & WoC horrendous though from 1-28?

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    Nah, purifying flame shreds and HFT is just there for bosses/rares. WoC for exposure obviously although some people like to replace PF with WoC I don’t find it necessary at all as PF keeps you healthy and has plenty of damage.

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