Unkillable Necro - Detonate Dead Necromancer Ascendancy, Bandits & Pantheons

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Ascendancy (Witch – Necromancer)

Plaguebringer

Plaguebringer is basically a 10% Damage Reduction while granting you a 10% More damage multiplier and 30% increased Area of Effect since you will always have corpses around you as you’re casting Desecrate Desecrate the entire time. Really solid notable overall with nothing in particular to elaborate on.

Corpse Pact

Corpse Pact makes Corpses you create with Desecrate will have 50% increased Maximum Life which increases the Corpse Explosion damage from Detonate Dead Detonate Dead. Lastly, through Chill and Shock it offers you a big chunk of damage and survivability. The cast speed it offers is a nice quality of life on top of all that!

Mistress of Sacrifice

Even after its nerf this Ascendancy node remains incredibly potent. It basically gives you 25% Block, Spell Block and a huge amount of Life gained when you block (which is very often). This note by itself makes it worth going for Block on Necromancers and really still is amazing! Getting this in Merciless Labyrinth will make the mapping feel incredibly smooth as long as you keep up the Bone Offering Bone Offering.

Essence Glutton

Essence Glutton enables you to use Energy Shield because if you don’t have a way to sustain Energy Shield it generally isn’t that great. Essence Glutton makes it so you don’t only sustain your Energy Shield but also your Mana. The node is incredibly potent as you’re always around corpses and consuming them! Very solid last pickup!

Bandits

There really only is one option here. You want to help Eramir for Skill Points. Sure, getting some Resistances and Mana Regeneration from Alira isn’t terrible as a league starter but capping resistances really isn’t an issue on this build! Eramir just offers so much flexibility that it almost always is better than the others!

Pantheons

Major Gods

Soul of Lunaris is probably your best pick. No one has ever said no to some extra Physical Damage Reduction!

Minor Gods

I would recommend Soul of Shakari here as Chaos damage over time can be fairly lethal. The other options don’t really offer us much.

Upgrading your Pantheons

Whilst upgrading your Pantheons never hurts you, it’s not that important for this character. If you have nothing else to do at some point, sure, why not, but it shouldn’t be something you focus on or spend a lot of time on.

Pantheon powers can be upgraded by using Divine Vessel Divine Vessel in the Map Device while you are activating the particular Map that contains the boss you need. Once you’ve killed the boss and captured his soul, you need to deliver the Divine Vessel Divine Vessel, which’ll be filled up in the map device, to Sin in Oriath.

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    So you say not to use wand but a sceptre, then you link a wand with Trigger a Socketed Spell when you use a Skill, and on the Gem Link page at 2.5 we have Trigger Wand Setup. So wich is it wand or sceptre? I am confused.

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    On 09/12/2020 at 8:59 PM, sfantulst said

    So you say not to use wand but a sceptre, then you link a wand with Trigger a Socketed Spell when you use a Skill, and on the Gem Link page at 2.5 we have Trigger Wand Setup. So wich is it wand or sceptre? I am confused.

    It’s A Sceptre, my bad. I’ll push an update.

    EDIT: Pushed an update!

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    Thank you. It’s the most awesomest :) build I have ever seen. Just 1 more dilemma … I see that in the passive skill tree you go for some +minion damage. Why is that?

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    On 10/12/2020 at 6:01 PM, sfantulst said

    Thank you. It’s the most awesomest :) build I have ever seen. Just 1 more dilemma … I see that in the passive skill tree you go for some +minion damage. Why is that?

    Since Detonate Dead is hard to scale, and the Spritual Aid notable makes minion damage work on you, it’s a fairly efficient Damage pathing

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    The link to paaks twitch is wrong, must be Paak_HC instead of PaakHC.

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    On 15/12/2020 at 10:44 AM, iberion_ said

    The link to paaks twitch is wrong, must be Paak_HC instead of PaakHC.

    Pushing an update here!

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    Ok 2 more questions
    1. In the helmet I see 2 res sockets and 2 blue ones. I guessing I should put in armageddon and combustion on the blue ones and generals cry on the red but what of the second red because I don’t span those mirror images when I use generals cry? So no fortify for me:)
    2. You say to use Val Detonate Dead but I don’t understand how to use it against bosses without spawns because there are no souls to recharge it. I mean it is difficult when killing mobs because i have to w8 for it to recharge but at bosses…

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    On 20/12/2020 at 9:42 PM, sfantulst said

    Ok 2 more questions
    1. In the helmet I see 2 res sockets and 2 blue ones. I guessing I should put in armageddon and combustion on the blue ones and generals cry on the red but what of the second red because I don’t span those mirror images when I use generals cry? So no fortify for me:)
    2. You say to use Val Detonate Dead but I don’t understand how to use it against bosses without spawns because there are no souls to recharge it. I mean it is difficult when killing mobs because i have to w8 for it to recharge but at bosses…

    1. What do you mean “I see 2 red and 2 blue sockets”? You can change sockets on your helmet?

    2. Vaal DD should be charged at the end of a map to kill the boss?

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    1. I know I can. Sorry if I wasn’t specific enough. I mean what to socket in the 4th socket in the helm in order for the vigil to work. I socketed armageddon, combustion and generals cry on it and my mirror images don’t spawn so no fortify :(
    2. Forget I sad anything about val DD. I’m an Idiot. Just realized that i can use DD normal spell if I have vaal DD gem.:)

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    On 21/12/2020 at 1:22 PM, sfantulst said

    1. I know I can. Sorry if I wasn’t specific enough. I mean what to socket in the 4th socket in the helm in order for the vigil to work. I socketed armageddon, combustion and generals cry on it and my mirror images don’t spawn so no fortify :(
    2. Forget I sad anything about val DD. I’m an Idiot. Just realized that i can use DD normal spell if I have vaal DD gem.:)

    1. you mean vigilant strike?

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    Hey, thanks for the guide im having a lot of fun. It can’t one shot bosses like g.slam champ but the map clearing is godly. Anyways, I have a couple of questions :).

    1. How do you go about using vaal dd? What im doing when i use it on a boss is i desecrate, use the vaal, then spam desecrate to keep the explosions going. I think I read on the gem that it stops after 22 corpse explosions and I’m not sure how many corpses I spawn with desecrate/spell cascade but that’s how im going about it. Is this what you do usually?

    2. How do you feel about bitterbind point for in slot shield? First time seeing this shield and figured I’d use it but not sure if it outweighs the option to have t1 spell block on a rare. I’m playing hc so my natural tendency is to lean towards the defensive option but I would like to kill bosses faster so that’s why im thinking this instead.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Yea got it. It was confusing because id you don’t have vigilant strike connected to generals cry then the generals cry doesn’t summon minions. Again thanks for the build.

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    I have been having a lot of fun with this build during Flashback, so thanks for this. Couple questions though.

    In the Gear TL;DR you mention getting resists on all of the rare gear due to using so many uniques in the build. Other than the jewel I did not see any recommended uniques. Any additional info on what you meant?

    In the cluster jewel section you mention “…the Sadist notable is insane for this build. You’re shocking, igniting and chilling all the time…” What in the build is causing us to consistently shock, ignite and chill? WIth Elemental Focus DD will not ignite, correct?

    Thanks.

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    On 22/12/2020 at 2:44 PM, Dirtt said

    I have been having a lot of fun with this build during Flashback, so thanks for this. Couple questions though.

    In the Gear TL;DR you mention getting resists on all of the rare gear due to using so many uniques in the build. Other than the jewel I did not see any recommended uniques. Any additional info on what you meant?

    In the cluster jewel section you mention “…the Sadist notable is insane for this build. You’re shocking, igniting and chilling all the time…” What in the build is causing us to consistently shock, ignite and chill? WIth Elemental Focus DD will not ignite, correct?

    Thanks.

    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

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    On 21/12/2020 at 11:29 PM, dabeezneez said

    Hey, thanks for the guide im having a lot of fun. It can’t one shot bosses like g.slam champ but the map clearing is godly. Anyways, I have a couple of questions :).

    1. How do you go about using vaal dd? What im doing when i use it on a boss is i desecrate, use the vaal, then spam desecrate to keep the explosions going. I think I read on the gem that it stops after 22 corpse explosions and I’m not sure how many corpses I spawn with desecrate/spell cascade but that’s how im going about it. Is this what you do usually?

    2. How do you feel about bitterbind point for in slot shield? First time seeing this shield and figured I’d use it but not sure if it outweighs the option to have t1 spell block on a rare. I’m playing hc so my natural tendency is to lean towards the defensive option but I would like to kill bosses faster so that’s why im thinking this instead.

    Thanks in advance!

    1. Vaal DD is used whenever you feel like you need to. I’m not quite sure actually on the Desecrate spam. I thought Desecrate -> DD was the move but I never knew about what you mentioned so it might actually be better.

    2. The Spectre Life looks insane, but I agree .. Spell Block / Life / .. is just too vital to give up. I wouldn’t do it as damage is already nuts.

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    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

    I didn’t see any mention of Skitterbots in the gem section, and actually it says “As your sole mana reserving buff you’re running Herald of Ash Herald of Ash. “ in the gem section. Can you clear that up? Also, how would the additional reserved mana affect the effectiveness of MoM? Is there a rule of thumb as to how much unreserved mana you should have based on current health pool?

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    On 22/12/2020 at 3:33 PM, Dirtt said

    Shock & Chill From Skitterbots. You can ignite with Armageddon Brand / Wave of Conviction / …

    And yeah this build doesn’t run many uniques, not sure why that’s there :D Don’t mind that, I’ll edit it out.

    I didn’t see any mention of Skitterbots in the gem section, and actually it says “As your sole mana reserving buff you’re running Herald of Ash Herald of Ash. “ in the gem section. Can you clear that up? Also, how would the additional reserved mana affect the effectiveness of MoM? Is there a rule of thumb as to how much unreserved mana you should have based on current health pool?

    Sorry, I was confusing this with another build, It’s not because of Skitter but because of Corpse Pact, a part of Necromancer’s Ascendancy which Shocks and Chill enemies around your Desecrate Corpses.

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    Thanks as always for the guides, I use them as inspiration often as you all have one of the best PoE websites!

    Saw where you mentioned you always try to stick to a leveling path (through acts) that mimics the end-game build as much as possible but couldn’t find a fit — and just wanted to say Cremation plays nearly identical and is an amazing leveling skill along with Arma brand @ 28.

    And to stay on theme and not have to repsec any points at all I go like this:

    Purifying Flame + Holy Flame Totem 1/4 Wave of Conviction 16
    Desecrate + Cremation / Armageddon Brand @ 28

    Arma brand is great for zoom-zoom and cremation packs a huge punch for bosses/rares, and once you get decent cast speed/2nd lab, even des+crema feels good as you can set it and forget it.

    Cheers again and happy holidays!

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    On 25/12/2020 at 4:51 AM, korn0413 said

    Thanks as always for the guides, I use them as inspiration often as you all have one of the best PoE websites!

    Saw where you mentioned you always try to stick to a leveling path (through acts) that mimics the end-game build as much as possible but couldn’t find a fit — and just wanted to say Cremation plays nearly identical and is an amazing leveling skill along with Arma brand @ 28.

    And to stay on theme and not have to repsec any points at all I go like this:

    Purifying Flame + Holy Flame Totem 1/4
    Wave of Conviction 16
    Desecrate + Cremation / Armageddon Brand @ 28

    Arma brand is great for zoom-zoom and cremation packs a huge punch for bosses/rares, and once you get decent cast speed/2nd lab, even des+crema feels good as you can set it and forget it.

    Cheers again and happy holidays!


    Yeah, that might be a good idea. Arma + Cremation is really solid! Isn’t Holy Flame Totem & WoC horrendous though from 1-28?

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    Nah, purifying flame shreds and HFT is just there for bosses/rares. WoC for exposure obviously although some people like to replace PF with WoC I don’t find it necessary at all as PF keeps you healthy and has plenty of damage.

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