Ultimate Raise Spectre Necromancer Gear, Jewels, and Flasks

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Armour

Chest

A Rare Chest with +1 to Maximum Number of Spectres is the best possible option for both damage and defense. We prefer the Vaal Regalia Vaal Regalia base, as coloring is extremely straightforward and it adds a little bit of hybrid defense to the build. Evasion bases, such as Zodiac Leather Zodiac Leather, are also a strong contender, however, you will need to ensure you have the required amount of Dexterity. Coloring via the Vorici Method will also be required, which can be tedious and expensive. Prioritize stats on your Rare Chest as follows:

  1. +1 to Maximum Number of Spectres
  2. [Uncapped] Elemental Resistances
  3. +# to Maximum Life
  4. +# to Maximum Energy Shield
  5. % Increased Energy Shield

There are some really excellent Elder and Shaped mods for chests as well, although the combination of such with the Delve crafted Spectres mod is extremely rare and expensive, so we have opted to exclude them from the basic priority. By far the most important acquisition is the additional Spectre itself, resulting in millions of extra damage per second on bosses.

Vis Mortis Vis Mortis is the best option early in the gearing path. Defensively you gain a fair amount of Energy Shield, while your Slave Drivers deal extra Chaos damage.

Tabula Rasa Tabula Rasa can be used early on in a league, as it is easily farmed in Blood Aqueducts on the first day of a league, even on Solo Self-Found.

Helmet

As with all summoner builds, the Bone Helmet Bone Helmet is our go to choice. Prioritize affixes as follows:

  1. [Uncapped] Elemental Resistances
  2. +# to Maximum Life
  3. +# to Level of Socketed Minion Gems (see the Improving the Animate Guardian section for why this is important)
  4. +# to Maximum Energy Shield / +# to Maximum Life
  5. +# to Maximum Mana

Wraithlord Wraithlord is a perfectly fine option while leveling and early in the end-game.

A Rare Helmet that is not a Bone Helmet Bone Helmet is also perfectly fine in the early end-game, and you could even kill Uber Elder without issues. Simply focus on capping your Resistances and finding a large Maximum Life roll.

Recommended Labyrinth Enchants in order of priority:

  1. Spectres have 40% increased Damage
  2. Spectres have 12% increased Attack and Cast Speed
  3. 30% increased Conductivity Curse Effect
  4. Flesh Offering grants an additional 21% increased Attack Speed
  5. 30% increased Flame Dash Cooldown Recovery Speed

Gloves

A pair of Rare Gloves should be used. Energy Shield and Evasion Bases (or hybrids, such as Murder Mitts Murder Mitts) are the most preferable, as we are using Acrobatics which halves Armour value. Prioritize affixes as follows:

  1. [Uncapped] Elemental Resistances
  2. +# to Maximum Life
  3. Minions Have % Increased Damage (Crafted)

Boots

Bones of Ullr Bones of Ullr should be used when you are on a budget. They are extremely cheap and easily obtained on any league and enchants are widely available. They can be used throughout the entire endgame and are easily good enough to destroy the Uber Elder should you desire. The main downside of these boots is the Movement Speed roll, but the extra level to Raise Spectre Raise Spectre could be quite valuable if it pushes you to a breakpoint.

A pair of Crafted Rare Boots is the best possible upgrade. By using Potent Chaotic Resonator Potent Chaotic Resonators socketed by Bound Fossil Bound Fossils and Shuddering Fossil Shuddering Fossils you should eventually be able to get a pair of Boots with 25%+ Movement Speed. You can also use a Powerful Chaotic Resonator Powerful Chaotic Resonator and add a Pristine Fossil Pristine Fossil, although this adds cost. Repeat this process until you have a smattering of rolls you are satisfied with — obviously, having more currency and/or more Fossils to invest will allow you to aim for a better set of rolls. That said, all you really need is Movement Speed and the Spectre gem level roll and one other useful stat (Life or Resistances) for the Rare boots to outstrip Bones of Ullr Bones of Ullr. Two-Toned Boots (Fire and Cold Resistances) Two-Toned Boots (Fire and Cold Resistances) are a great base since you can guarantee they will already have some Resistances through their implicit.

Weapon and Shield

Weapon

Lightning Damage to Spells is a large decrease in damage due to Elemental Equilibrium, so avoid it at all costs.

We prefer wands with cast speed implicits (such as the Profane Wand Profane Wand). The three most important stats to have are:

  • Minions Deal % Increased Damage (ideally Citaqualotl’s Incursion Prefix — 90-95% Increased Minion Damage)
  • Adds Fire OR Cold Damage to Spells (allows you to socket Blade Vortex Blade Vortex in the wand to trigger Elemental Equilibrium)
  • Trigger a Socketed Spell When You Use a Skill (Crafted — Syndicate Recipe)

Multi-modded Wand

This is a late game upgrade you can craft yourself. The easiest way to begin is to find a Wand with the Citaqualotl’s Incursion Prefix (90-95% Increased Minion Damage). It is easiest if this is the only stat on the Wand, which can be achieved by gambling with Orb of Annulment Orb of Annulments, but having at least three open Suffixes and one Prefix is necessary for a top-quality wand. Once you have a Rare wand ready to go with the aforementioned affixes, head to the crafting bench:

  1. Craft Can Have Multiple Crafted Modifiers
  2. Craft Trigger a Socketed Spell When You Use a Skill
  3. Craft Minions of % Increased Cast/Attack Speed
  4. Craft Adds # to # Fire Damage to Spells
  5. If you have a second open Prefix, craft +# to Maximum Mana

Since crafts done after Can Have Multiple Crafted Modifiers cannot be changed without removing the affix and re-crafting the item, ensure you are using the highest level crafts possible. This costs several Exalted Orb Exalted Orbs to properly execute and is not at all a necessary item to stomp content, but is a nice end-game upgrade to aim for. If you do not have the necessary crafts, you may need to find another player on the forums to help you for a small fee.

Shield

Victario's Charity Victario's Charity is the best shield for virtually all situations and should be coupled with the Necromantic Aegis keystone. It has a nice Life roll and grants Power and Frenzy charges to your minions, and is easily obtained on any league including Solo Self-Found.

Accessories

Amulet

A Rare Amulet, ideally with a Dexterity implicit (Onyx Amulet Onyx Amulet, Jade Amulet Jade Amulet, and Citrine Amulet Citrine Amulet are the best options) is our go-to choice. This is a nice slot for this build as we do not need any of the expensive traditional damage stats such as Crit Multiplier or Weapon Elemental Damage. Prioritize affixes as follows:

  1. +# to Maximum Life
  2. [Uncapped] Elemental Resistances
  3. +# to Attributes (as needed)
  4. % Increased Maximum Energy Shield
  5. % Increased Movement Speed (Shaped Prefix)
  6. % of Damage Taken as Mana Over 4 Seconds (Crafted) / +# to Maximum Mana
  7. +# to Maximum Energy Shield

Rings

Unset Ring Unset Rings are preferred, as Summoner’s often need every gem socket they can get. Using Unset Ring Unset Rings allows us some more freedom with out links. Similar to amulets, we just want high defensive rolls. Prioritize as follows:

  1. [Uncapped] Elemental Resistances
  2. +# to Maximum Life
  3. Minions Deal % Increased Damage
  4. +# to Attributes (as needed)
  5. % Increased Cast Speed
  6. +# to Maximum Energy Shield

Belt

A Stygian Vise Stygian Vise is the best belt base to use. Prioritize the stats of your belt as follows:

  1. Elemental Resistances
  2. +# to Maximum Life
  3. % Increased Effect of Flasks on You (Crafted)
  4. +# to Strength
  5. +# to Armour

Jewels

Unique Jewels

The only required Unique Jewel is Unending Hunger Unending Hunger, which gives your Minions a learge chance to gain Soul Eater for 30 seconds on kill. This is a huge boost to clear and most bosses. The Intelligence does not need to be allocated to socket the Jewel. If you are not league starting, you can even level with this Jewel. We have chosen to socket it as shown below:

Unending Hunger

Anatomical Knowledge Anatomical Knowledge is a cheap Unique Jewel that is quite powerful defensively that you may consider using before you have truly excellent Abyss Jewels. Even then it does not necessarily need to be replaced, but is also not a required pickup and can be shuffled out in favor of a strong Ghastly Eye Jewel Ghastly Eye Jewel. We have chosen to socket it as shown below:

Anatomical Knowledge

Abyss Jewels

Abyss Jewels are preferred over their standard counterparts. We make use of Ghastly Eye Jewel Ghastly Eye Jewels in all our remaining sockets as well as our Stygian Vise Stygian Vise. Prioritize affixes as follows:

  1. +# to Maximum Life
  2. % Increased Minion Damage if You’ve Used a Minion Skill Recently
  3. Minions Have % Increased Attack Speed / Minions Have % Increased Cast Speed
  4. Minions Deal # to # Additional Lightning Damage

Any other affixes you can fit in or make use of, especially if you are crafting your own Jewels, are perfectly fine. % Increased Minion Damage if You’ve Used a Minion Skill Recently is only to be used if Convocation Convocation is socketed in your Unset Ring Unset Ring. If it is part of your auto-cast setup in your wand it will not trigger the buff and you will have a wasted affix on your jewel. Minion skills must be manually cast in order to procure this buff.

Flasks

  1. Seething Divine Life Flask Divine Life Flask of Staunching
  2. Experimenter’s Jade Flask Jade Flask of Reflexes
  3. Chemist’s Basalt Flask Basalt Flask of Heat
  4. Experimenter’s Quartz Flask Quartz Flask of Warding
  5. Alchemist’s Quicksilver Flask Quicksilver Flask of Adrenaline

Be sure to check out our Flask Crafting Guide to learn everything you need to know about how to set up your non-Unique flasks.

Check out the main page of the guide or use the menu on the right side of this page to navigate to the other sections of the guide.

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    I use this exact build right now for my third SSF char in this league. I had some Bones of Ullr, Sidhebreath in my stash and a Tabula. I started with SRS and tried to switch to Spectres when I first saw Slave Drivers. But they keep dying… Even with Minion Life. My Desecrate and Raise Spectres gems should create level 47 Spectres, I remove Spell Echo from my 6L before raising Spectres but it doesn’t help. SSF so no Wraithlord for me. I always raise spectres in my Delve mine (level 75-80 don’t remember).
    Do you have an idea? Did I miss something in the tree to help with their life regen and survivability?

  2. Furty

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    On 11/07/2019 at 7:53 AM, Asmo57 said

    I use this exact build right now for my third SSF char in this league. I had some Bones of Ullr, Sidhebreath in my stash and a Tabula. I started with SRS and tried to switch to Spectres when I first saw Slave Drivers. But they keep dying… Even with Minion Life. My Desecrate and Raise Spectres gems should create level 47 Spectres, I remove Spell Echo from my 6L before raising Spectres but it doesn’t help. SSF so no Wraithlord for me. I always raise spectres in my Delve mine (level 75-80 don’t remember).
    Do you have an idea? Did I miss something in the tree to help with their life regen and survivability?

    As mentioned in the Leveling section, you should only level with Raise Spectre Raise Spectre if you have Wraithlord Wraithlord (If you want to switch to Raise Spectre Raise Spectre while leveling, you should use Wraithlord Wraithlord, otherwise you will lack damage and have a difficult time keeping them alive).

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    OK thanks for your reply.
    And in the end-game what will make them durable? Ascendencies? Desecrate and Raise Spectres gem levels?

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    On 11/07/2019 at 8:46 AM, Asmo57 said

    OK thanks for your reply.
    And in the end-game what will make them durable? Ascendencies? Desecrate and Raise Spectres gem levels?

    There’s a variety of factors — Soul Weaver Ascendancy, Convocation Convocation, certain Passive Skill tree investments, Raise Spectre Raise Spectre gem level, spectre monster level, etc.

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    First of all i wanna thank the guys who figured out this build! It is amazing! Ive been playing Spectremancer like 2 seasons now,didnt reach more than 88 the last season using this build https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide ..I did start a little late in current season so i thought,well it is oki to reach 88 with so little time .So i started out this season, building the almost exact build,i did then reach 88 once more,and god i was struggling,dying all the time,getting 1 shotted and rekt trying to get past map 10,in fact i was on lvl 88 for weeks ,gaining and loosing xp all the time…Iam not saying the https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide build isnt good,its just not for me,that i can see now,who the hell want all thoose zombies and skeletons?..so did reset alot og points in my passive tree.I dont have all the correct items for the new build yet..but its stil SO MUCH stronger and the defense is great..Ive being running several 10 maps now and do not loosing xp atall,gaining my way to 89..Holy sheep thoose Slave drivers are so powerfull..My Animate Guardian is dying sometimes,but i quess its because the gem is a little to low atm…10/10 best build out there..no doubt”“!Thanx guys! great job! Maybe with the new patch today..who knows..some of thoose new spectres could be even stronger?

    Best regards! Netfix https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/%C3%86rek%C3%A6r

    Edited by Netfix on July 12th, 2019

  6. Furty

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    On 12/07/2019 at 9:27 AM, Netfix said

    First of all i wanna thank the guys who figured out this build! It is amazing! Ive been playing Spectremancer like 2 seasons now,didnt reach more than 88 the last season using this build https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide ..I did start a little late in current season so i thought,well it is oki to reach 88 with so little time .So i started out this season, building the almost exact build,i did then reach 88 once more,and god i was struggling,dying all the time,getting 1 shotted and rekt trying to get past map 10,in fact i was on lvl 88 for weeks ,gaining and loosing xp all the time…Iam not saying the https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/raise-spectre-necromancer-build-guide build isnt good,its just not for me,that i can see now,who the hell want all thoose zombies and skeletons?..so did reset alot og points in my passive tree.I dont have all the correct items for the new build yet..but its stil SO MUCH stronger and the defense is great..Ive being running several 10 maps now and do not loosing xp atall,gaining my way to 89..Holy sheep thoose Slave drivers are so powerfull..My Animate Guardian is dying sometimes,but i quess its because the gem is a little to low atm…10/10 best build out there..no doubt”“!Thanx guys! great job! Maybe with the new patch today..who knows..some of thoose new spectres could be even stronger?

    Best regards! Netfix https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/%C3%86rek%C3%A6r

    Thanks for the positive feedback, I’m glad this build is working out for you and I’m sorry that you weren’t able to get the most out of your previous effort. I’ll be adding a more detailed section on Animate Guardian Animate Guardian soon to help players keep it alive and equip it with even more powerful gear.

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    Hi guys, For some reason the Passive skill tree is not available for me to look at. Any insight in how to do this as i NEED this build in my life for my First character haha! Thanks in Advance.

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    ‘Thx man! how kind of you to respect me of me journey,As i told earlier i didnt have all the correct items for the build..Aim having a bit trouble understanding all the correct words from the build,and i did use alot of currency trying to make my last build function..iam struggling with all ress atm..dying has arrived..but still ive gained ½ lvl on 1 night/day..was 3 bubs from 89 getting very faisty..thought i was immortal..haha..i wasnt..but still i rekt legion forces more than ever..if i manage to keep up blade vortex,i cannot die..but then again..i cant..i hope when i have the currency to buy a decent 1 h mace with 90+ miniondamage,and ressist..I think iam not suppose to click the dang thing all the time to keep it up..something about “ Trigger a Socketed Spell When You Use a Skill“i dont quiet understand..but i quess it will follow later on when i have the correct items..Or is it suppose to be like that?..i gotta keep it up by clicking the hell outta it….would be aweaome if the spell just staying at +10 all the time,and just was like and damage aura all the time…i hope you understand my odd kinda spelling and questioning…pardon my french kinda spelling and odd kinda langueage…Iam from Denmark…North Europe…Anyways thanx in advance!

    Urs sincerely Netfix..iam not expeckting you to answer me..this is just mu thoughts outthere..great respect from here…no trollin whatsoever§!

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    On 12/07/2019 at 6:13 PM, Deathstowel said

    Hi guys, For some reason the Passive skill tree is not available for me to look at. Any insight in how to do this as i NEED this build in my life for my First character haha! Thanks in Advance.

    http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAd-wksGOvhEtLJy86mpDCPTsimvbTLPQH-_rBAeD21XGOlismPfXzLxNuYVgqsR8g-vumuBFnVNSHNyPGriTKPqCx_noQYe3Pv4K2L01kv6PTeOmVzrh8kW18m6qSsiKr5ARe8ODzDwtg1_GrsT2r6cczitQDc3-VHKprKpZ8xo4kFUnL3IPZp6g5mdxSp-Ub2ZU0_tqrAZJV8kNfOq6tAxGceGIHaqwd4MJb57xs0tXwOPKSl-wm7WExcM6IuoyAbIZz3ro1gW1jb_UIzBx3ahLeDpCmK3-STLRRUfAZgSzogAZivsJ9toaj_AfaHTaYhhWqH1akRUnjLHsg9OP2V7-gWa6LOI=

    Here is a link to an official site tree.

  10. Furty

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    On 12/07/2019 at 9:07 PM, Netfix said

    ‘Thx man! how kind of you to respect me of me journey,As i told earlier i didnt have all the correct items for the build..Aim having a bit trouble understanding all the correct words from the build,and i did use alot of currency trying to make my last build function..iam struggling with all ress atm..dying has arrived..but still ive gained ½ lvl on 1 night/day..was 3 bubs from 89 getting very faisty..thought i was immortal..haha..i wasnt..but still i rekt legion forces more than ever..if i manage to keep up blade vortex,i cannot die..but then again..i cant..i hope when i have the currency to buy a decent 1 h mace with 90+ miniondamage,and ressist..I think iam not suppose to click the dang thing all the time to keep it up..something about “ Trigger a Socketed Spell When You Use a Skill“i dont quiet understand..but i quess it will follow later on when i have the correct items..Or is it suppose to be like that?..i gotta keep it up by clicking the hell outta it….would be aweaome if the spell just staying at +10 all the time,and just was like and damage aura all the time…i hope you understand my odd kinda spelling and questioning…pardon my french kinda spelling and odd kinda langueage…Iam from Denmark…North Europe…Anyways thanx in advance!

    Urs sincerely Netfix..iam not expeckting you to answer me..this is just mu thoughts outthere..great respect from here…no trollin whatsoever§!

    If you have the Trigger a Socketed Spell when You Use a Skill mod on your weapon then Blade Vortex Blade Vortex will activate automatically, so definitely something to look forward to!

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    This appears extremely similar to Kayella’s build posted 5 days prior to this. Slave Drivers not being in PoB and the discovery of Slave Drivers being viable contenders in the Spectre arsenal are all very recent/coincidental and I would appreciate a follow up to this. Original Link/Guide — http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275 —————— If this is the inspiration for such a build, at least some type of homage is due. Clarification would be much appreciated.

    Edited by Hammer2DaFace on July 13th, 2019

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    On 13/07/2019 at 4:23 AM, Hammer2DaFace said

    This appears extremely similar to Kayella’s build posted 5 days prior to this. Slave Drivers not being in PoB and the discovery of Slave Drivers being viable contenders in the Spectre arsenal are all very recent/coincidental and I would appreciate a follow up to this. Original Link/Guide — http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275 —————— If this is the inspiration for such a build, at least some type of homage is due. Clarification would be much appreciated.

    Hey there,

    Slave Drivers being a recent discovery as a contender is the main reason this guide was produced, as we already have a great Spectres guide to the more traditional “Solar Guard” route on-site. I’m not sure if this “Kayella” character was the very first person to discover Slave Drivers, since I haven’t had the pleasure of encountering their work or chatting with them before, but I’ve been hearing a bit of buzz about the use of Slave Drivers both in-game and in discord for a few weeks now. After reading through the guide you linked, it is clear to me the content isn’t all that similar aside from stuff like Gearing and Passive Allocation, which is pretty archetypal across many Spectre/Summoner builds to begin with. Whenever something new is discovered that causes a shift in the status quo of a certain archetype or meta, it is inevitable there will be multiple or many new information streams that cover and tackle it from different angles — for example, how many Cyclone Cyclone guides/builds are out there with similar recommendations but entirely different guide matter?

    Having written many guides for many games, I take my work very seriously and I know exactly what it feels like to have your work mirrored or reproduced without fair citation. As such, I have no problem giving people the appropriate nod and link or asking their permission directly, as is their right. This isn’t the case here, although my hat is off to this particular creator for some of the depth they’ve gone into in their guide (what a detailed leveling section!). Please feel free to reach out to me or respond here if any other clarification is needed!

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    On 13/07/2019 at 1:44 PM, Furty said

    I’m not sure if this “Kayella” character was the very first person to discover Slave Drivers,

    Hello,

    I am Kayella. I was informed by several players that this build guide is similar to mine.

    Firstly, I would like to address this comment. On the 5th of July, I posted the world first sub 2min Uber Elder kill using Slave Drivers. My friend passed on the link to Uberelite, who then streamed it on his stream. You can check the video and dates here:

    https://www.youtube.com/kaygaming

    I am also the one who posted the PSA on reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cav6pe/psa_for_summoners_slave_drivers_are_pretty_good/

    The current buzz around Slave Drivers is most likely because of my video/reddit post.

    On 13/07/2019 at 1:44 PM, Furty said

    it is inevitable there will be multiple or many new information streams that cover and tackle it from different angles

    it is clear to me the content isn’t all that similar aside from stuff like Gearing and Passive Allocation, which is pretty archetypal across many Spectre/Summoner builds to begin with

    Secondly, you say you tackle it ‘from a different angle’. However, I have read through your guide, and all your information is the same as mine. Your gem suggestions and their links are the same as mine. This is not archetypal. No other spectre summoner build uses the same gem and gem link configuration as my build does.

    Your passive tree is exactly the same as mine. Again, this is not archetypal. I popularised the use of phase acrobatics in Synthesis league. No other spectre summoner build focuses on it. Especially with pathing to Herbalism which was theorycrafted in Synethsis league by a friend of mine.

    You gear suggestions, crafting guide and mechanics are exactly the same as mine or are a paraphrase of my words. Yet more non-archetypal build features. The use of a multi-mod trigger wand to proc Elemental Equilibrium is something I theorycrafted with others through my build guide. This is not featured in other summoner builds.

    Overall, much of the descriptions that you give, especially in the crafting and explaining of mechanics, are clear paraphrases of my words. There is too much similarity between this guide and my guide for it to be coincidental.

    Edited by Kayella on July 14th, 2019

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    On 14/07/2019 at 1:47 PM, Kayella said

    On 13/07/2019 at 1:44 PM, Furty said

    I’m not sure if this “Kayella” character was the very first person to discover Slave Drivers,

    Hello,

    I am Kayella. I was informed by several players that this build guide is similar to mine.

    Firstly, I would like to address this comment. On the 5th of July, I posted the world first sub 2min Uber Elder kill using Slave Drivers. My friend passed on the link to Uberelite, who then streamed it on his stream. You can check the video and dates here:

    https://www.youtube.com/kaygaming

    I am also the one who posted the PSA on reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cav6pe/psa_for_summoners_slave_drivers_are_pretty_good/

    The current buzz around Slave Drivers is most likely because of my video/reddit post.

    On 13/07/2019 at 1:44 PM, Furty said

    it is inevitable there will be multiple or many new information streams that cover and tackle it from different angles

    it is clear to me the content isn’t all that similar aside from stuff like Gearing and Passive Allocation, which is pretty archetypal across many Spectre/Summoner builds to begin with

    Secondly, you say you tackle it ‘from a different angle’. However, I have read through your guide, and all your information is the same as mine. Your gem suggestions and their links are the same as mine. This is not archetypal. No other spectre summoner build uses the same gem and gem link configuration as my build does.

    Your passive tree is exactly the same as mine. Again, this is not archetypal. I popularised the use of phase acrobatics in Synthesis league. No other spectre summoner build focuses on it. Especially with pathing to Herbalism which was theorycrafted in Synethsis league by a friend of mine.

    You gear suggestions, crafting guide and mechanics are exactly the same as mine or are a paraphrase of my words. Yet more non-archetypal build features. The use of a multi-mod trigger wand to proc Elemental Equilibrium is something I theorycrafted with others through my build guide. This is not featured in other summoner builds.

    Overall, much of the descriptions that you give, especially in the crafting and explaining of mechanics, are clear paraphrases of my words. There is too much similarity between this guide and my guide for it to be coincidental.

    Hello.

    I am Vlad, one of the owners of PoE Vault, and I’m responsible for proofreading and curating most of the content we have here. As a short preface, I will say that I play PoE myself, but having started quite recently, I am far from being as versed in matters relating to it as our writers, or yourself. As such, while I respond to your post, please bear that in mind in case I misspeak. We have done quite a bit of research into this matter, though, so I am not only speaking for myself here but also reproducing the opinions of more experienced players.

    When this matter was first brought to our attention yesterday, we immediately took it very seriously. We pride ourselves on creating quality original content, and the thought that one of our writers would have plagiarized someone else’s work (without any mention or credit, to top it off) was alarming. As my response will show, we do not believe that any sort of plagiarizing took place, but it is important that you understand the fact that we did look at it as a real possibility, and investigated things as such.

    With that out of the way, let’s look at the allegations.

    Claim: You claim that the “current buzz” around Slave Drivers is probably because of your videos and reddit post.

    Response: While that may well be true, Furty had had the idea of potentially using Slave Drivers in a Raise Spectre Necromancer guide before your post and even before the Taiwanese video was posted on June 29th. I submit the following screenshot of a Discord chat from June 20th, when Furty’s friend mentions the idea to him.

    I will immediately grant that the screenshot is hardly proof of Furty having begun work on the guide, or of even having committed at the time to write it, but it does show that he was aware of the combination being possible shortly before he wrote the guide, and before you posted anything about it anywhere (that we know of).

    As a supplemental note, Furty made use of this post as part of his minion research, and as you can see that talks about Slave Drivers long before any of this recent interest in them surfaced.

    Taking the Slave Driver idea further, as you clearly point out in your reddit post, you did not come up with the concept yourself, but instead it was the Taiwanese summoners who appear to have made it work first (interestingly, you don’t seem to mention this fact anywhere in your guide on the official forums).

    Claim: You claim that “all your information is the same as mine”. You cite skill trees, gems, and “all information”.

    Response: This is simply not true.

    The passive skill trees are not the same. Aside from the fact that you provide a level 95 tree and we provide a level 100 one (which obviously leads to some differences), there are the notable facts that you take the entire Revenge of Hunted wheel, whereas we do not, you do not take the Leadership notable (nor do you mention anywhere in your guide that you might take it with the remaining skill points), you path differently to Gravepact, and you take one fewer Jewel socket.

    The gem links are indeed very similar, but then again, since the builds are pretty much the same, this is not very surprising to me (I will get back to the similarities between the builds towards the end of my reply). There is one difference in Lightning Penetration Support being used in the main link, but that is indeed minor.

    You also claim that “all information” is the same but there are other differences. For example, your Pantheon section provides one major god and one minor god as options, whereas we provide an alternative for each. You recommend Blood of the Karui Blood of the Karui in your flask section, whereas we do not and recommend a Basalt Flask Basalt Flask instead.

    Claim: You claim that you popularised the use of Phase Acrobatics in Synthesis and “no other spectre summoner build focuses on it”.

    Response: First of all, this Raise Spectre Necromancer build uses Phases Acrobatics. It was posted at the end of January 2019, so well before Synthesis came out. That makes your statement patently false.

    Even if it weren’t for that build’s existence, however, Phase Acrobatics is a very popular node. Furty made use of it in one of the first builds he wrote on our site, the Storm Brand Elementalist (it has since been removed from that build). While that is indeed not “a summoner” and is a different ascendancy, let us not get too carried away here with the idea of revolutionary concepts. It is a strong passive that exists on the skill tree, and pathing to it is not something you can claim ownership over, in my opinion.

    You also mention pathing to Herbalism here, but I don’t see what this has to do with anything since neither your build nor ours go anywhere near that node.

    Claim: You claim to have “theorycrafted” the use of a multi-mod trigger wand to proc Elemental Equilibrium.

    Response: That trigger effect has existed in the game since patch 3.1 on The Poet's Pen The Poet's Pen. I do not see what is so revolutionary in replicating a powerful Unique effect in a crafted Rare item.

    Claim: You claim that the “gear suggestions, crafting guide and mechanics” and “much of the descriptions” are paraphrases of your own words.

    Response: This is the part I have the most trouble with. I don’t mean to be rude, but your guide is quite austere at the best of times. There are literal pages’ worth of content in our guide that simply does not exist in yours (gem discussions, passive skill tree discussion, crafting explanations and gear discussions).

    While I concede similarities between the two builds (again, explained more below) in terms of their very core, I find their forms to be very different indeed. To claim that there is any paraphrasing going on is, frankly, outrageous. Even “extrapolation” would be improperly used here.

    Both builds describe the same thing. So, because the two builds are basically the same, they naturally have overlap. A lot of overlap. A lot of things are shared. The gear, for example, is archetypal. Using Bones of Ullr Bones of Ullr, +1 spectre boots, or Vis Mortis Vis Mortis is just bog standard summoner stuff.

    But there are differences in the actual recommendations, and there are certainly huge differences in terms of wording, depth of explanation, alternatives provided, and more.

    Conclusion

    All of the above is sufficient evidence for us to conclude that there is no undue copying of content in this case. Furty has been a respected (if sometimes controversial precisely for the opposite of plagiarism, namely going against accepted theorycrafting and proposing his own ideas) guide-writer in World of Warcraft for many years. We have worked with him for a long time, and we are very familiar with his writing style, and this guide does not in any way read or sound differently from his usual work.

    I do want to say that I can certainly see how the timing of the publication of this guide coinciding with you updating your guide on the official forums, together with the very similar content of the guides, could have led you to believe that something was wrong. A reasonable suspicion, but one which happens to be unfounded this time.

    Finally, I would like to touch upon the tone of your post, which seems to me to imply you feel you have some sort of “copyright” on various things (Phase Acrobatics for summoners, Slave Drivers, multi mod wands) etc. Guide-writing in a lot of games (and Path of Exile is very much one of them) is a gradual, iterative process where one creator builds upon the work of dozens of others who research and bring various elements to the forefront.

    Crediting others for discovering things is certainly practiced when the discovery is groundbreaking, the combination is revolutionary, and so on (and we have credited thusly on many occasions in the past), but it is not a blanket practice that should just be applied every time you write a guide on a topic someone else covered somewhere before.

    Edited by Vlad on July 14th, 2019

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    That is a well-worded rebuttal to the aforementioned issues, but I’m having trouble seeing the how that discord post truly helps validate the credibility here.

    To clarify: Someone that doesn’t “like to play necro that much” decided to grab Slave Drivers , a spectre not mathematically testable in Path of Building outside of an obscure workaround, and build an in-depth guide in a short period of time — coincidentally publishing days after purist Necro players with established followings post their builds and the results appear alarmingly similar?

    Necromancer Spectre Summoner passive trees, I admit, don’t have as insane a variance level in terms of their passive trees as other builds, but the timing/wording of all of this honestly begs the question: Is this truly “original content?”

    Furty also mentioned variations of “Cyclone” builds as an example of different ways to “tackle” builds. Raise Spectre is on a wholly different level in terms of making a build. The game offers countless possibilities and interactions with mob types. Most with differing skills gems, animations, cast speeds, etc… Slave Drivers are one in a huge lineup of options to interact with Raise Spectre. It takes time, in-game currency, and much effort to optimize each individual archetype within Raise Spectre. Cyclone is Cyclone. The gem is what the skill offers and what you’re purely working with in the passive tree and in your character build/items/dynamics. —

    To comment on another point — I understand that paying “homage” in the sense I appeared to asked previously and giving nods to other players for varying ideas/builds/content is not commonplace in the vast ocean of content that is PoE (or most all games for that matter). There aren’t patents or copyrights galore to pull from for legal action or game ToS. However, many of these big content creators/streamers do give at least some kind of visibility/acknowledgement/friendly nudge when something seems to budge commonplace standards (eh ehm Solar Guards…) and is worth checking out.

    My original comment above was in response to this asking for clarification. Kayella’s guide appeared (and still does) eerily similar to this one. However, Kayella made a point to comment on their found origins (“nice Find! etc..)

    From what I’ve been observing:

    Kayella commented on that original Taiwanese video.
    The player commented back — both were discussing optimal gems.
    Uberelite, just recognized by GGG, then shared Kayella’s video on stream.
    Uberelite does a Pledge of Hands rendition and is currently playing it.

    There wasn’t a “credits to x and x and x” on a guide, or an asterisk on Uberelite’s twitch page for credit to Kayella. There wasn’t an asterisk on Kayella’s guide to the Taiwanese player. There was a sharing of information, publicly. On video, or on the comments page on the guide’s thread. A “nudge or friendly bump.”

    This guide appeared on my radar, out of the blue, with intense similarities, and no grounds from which I saw or have seen that transition. I simply asked for clarification on the matter, and then I’m told it is wholly original. Fair enough. I can’t prove coincidences, nor is it my job to, but as a fan of the game and the ascendancy in general, this brought up a red flag to me and I asked a question to see the origins.

    I do appreciate the constructive and professional rebuttals. The one thing I am genuinely happy for is the exposure of all of this to players wanting to try the ascendancy— new or veteran. I am guilty of commenting on a guide without intentions to start a discussion improving someone’s game experience with spectres. However, I did feel the need to try and delve (pun intended) into the core of the roots of the information that was lacking any remote sense of vague affirmation. Guides/Builds are an ever-evolving, adaptive process in which many players take part in – I agree. This one struck home for me as it was in the neck-of-the-woods I frequent. And it seemed out of place.

    Edited by Hammer2DaFace on July 15th, 2019

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    Hi guys,
    I hope you can help

    all my minions die from 1 hit of most yellow monsters, I do have Wraithlord and Bones of Ullr I am keeping my zobies together with spectres and most yellow bosses just 1 shot the whole lot
    can any1 look at my char and see what the heck I am doing wrong? thx guys!!
    https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/xtyr/characters

    char in Legion name: SashaTheSpectreQueen

    pls help!

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    On 15/07/2019 at 9:23 AM, XtyrTheRed said

    Hi guys,
    I hope you can help

    all my minions die from 1 hit of most yellow monsters, I do have Wraithlord and Bones of Ullr I am keeping my zobies together with spectres and most yellow bosses just 1 shot the whole lot
    can any1 look at my char and see what the heck I am doing wrong? thx guys!!
    https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/xtyr/characters

    char in Legion name: SashaTheSpectreQueen

    pls help!

    Unfortunately they’re just pretty squishy during the leveling process. Picking up a Convocation Convocation gem makes it a little smoother but your Spectres especially will still be fairly vulnerable until the Soul Weaver and Commander of Darkness keystones on your Necromancer Ascendancy. You can also grab the Sacrifice notable for now (and Spiritual Command while you’re there) and spec out of them once you’re comfortably into maps.

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    I’m not really clear on how the ‘Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill’ thing works. In your gear section you mention that it’s useful because ‘stopping to cast Armageddon Band isn’t worth it’, but in order for these skills to cast, you need to self-cast something. So what is being cast to trigger these if not Armageddon Band?

    Additionally, whenever I trigger these skills, not all 3 are cast. They seem to randomly cast. What am I not understanding or doing properly here?

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    On 15/07/2019 at 5:38 AM, Hammer2DaFace said

    Necromancer Spectre Summoner passive trees, I admit, don’t have as insane a variance level in terms of their passive trees as other builds, but the timing/wording of all of this honestly begs the question: Is this truly “original content?”

    Seems about as original as Kayella’s.

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    On 15/07/2019 at 3:56 PM, ModularAlbatross said

    I’m not really clear on how the ‘Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill’ thing works. In your gear section you mention that it’s useful because ‘stopping to cast Armageddon Band isn’t worth it’, but in order for these skills to cast, you need to self-cast something. So what is being cast to trigger these if not Armageddon Band?

    Additionally, whenever I trigger these skills, not all 3 are cast. They seem to randomly cast. What am I not understanding or doing properly here?

    You should be shield charging or flame dashing or leap slamming all over the place (charge or leap generally preferable as they can link to fortify). Convocation should also trigger the gems in the wand, and is pretty important.

    Edited by FalconPimpslap on July 15th, 2019

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